What i would like to get my hands on is a VOB file with DD5.1 sound that tests out the audio, e.g. a voice that says 'Front Left', 'Front Right', 'Surround Left' etc with the voice coming out of the apropriate speaker.
Is there anywhere i can get one of these from the net, or would it be possible to create one?
Thanks in advance.
Steve.
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- #2Your amp should have test tones for setting up a 5.1 system, granted it's not voices but it will do the job.
Putting that aside AVIA do a couple of DVD's that are designed to optimise a home cinema (audio/video) setup and the R1 5 star edition of MASH has a THX setup section on the first disk. - #3i got a dvd like you require from 'PoundZone' the other day, superb it is, and only a pound!
Dan - #4I have thrown together what you are looking for (anything beats revision - who needs a degree anyway!)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hedley34/ddtest.vob
Full 5.1 test with LFE channel.
Hope that helps.
Gordon. - #5I have thrown together what you are looking for (anything beats revision - who needs a degree anyway!)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hedley34/ddtest.vob
Full 5.1 test with LFE channel.
Hope that helps.
Gordon.
Cheers. Exactly what i needed.
Out of interest how did you make that VOB file? I ask because i once downlloaded some DD5.1 WAV files from the net but my DVD player wont play them (just get electronic noise). As my player can play DD5.1 Vob files but not 5.1 Wav files, are there tools that can convert/encode 5.1 WAV audio into a VOB file? - #6Vob is not really a file type as such, it's more a container inside which video and audio streams are multiplexed together.
The 5.1 audio(indeed any of the dolby audio systems) format is ac3 files. You can get software which would encode the wavs that you downloaded into an ac3 file. Then multiplex that .ac3 file with a video file and you have a vob (or .mpg, they are just the same thing).
The software to accomplish all of this is out there. Plenty of it is freeware and available.
Sites such as
http://www.doom9.org/index.html
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/
have plenty of info and guides on how to create ac3's and test files such as the one I made.
If you have any probs with it all then give me a shout, it has taken the best part of a year for me to get skilled with mpg/dvd methods and rules.
Gordon. - #7Vob is not really a file type as such, it's more a container inside which video and audio streams are multiplexed together.
The 5.1 audio(indeed any of the dolby audio systems) format is ac3 files. You can get software which would encode the wavs that you downloaded into an ac3 file. Then multiplex that .ac3 file with a video file and you have a vob (or .mpg, they are just the same thing).
The software to accomplish all of this is out there. Plenty of it is freeware and available.
Sites such as
http://www.doom9.org/index.html
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/
have plenty of info and guides on how to create ac3's and test files such as the one I made.
If you have any probs with it all then give me a shout, it has taken the best part of a year for me to get skilled with mpg/dvd methods and rules.
Gordon.
Out of interest, i have a few DivX files that aparently contain 5.1 sound. Would it be possible to convert this into a vob file but have the video in a VCD or SVCD format (so it can still fit onto a CD-R)? - #8If all else fails, if youve got Star Wars Episodes 1 or 2, there is a THQ testing utility in the sound menu that I use (in fact used last week).
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5.1 Surround Sound Test
Penteosurround: how about 30 sec audio bites?
Sivadselim: I have dvd movies with surround sound. I was more interested in listening to a surround sound piece of music though.
Don't think that is possible, otherwise what would be the point of buying a hirez player.
Oppo is a great line, I have the 980 and love it. It has played just about everything I have thrown at it, sacd, dvda, divx etc..
Forgive me if I read that incorrectly.
Follow your bliss!
My Blu-ray Collection
My SA-CD Collection
1) No hi-rez player now, I know I can't play them, not looking to.
2) 95% sure I'm getting a Oppo primarily for SD DVD playback. Thus enabling both DVD-A and SACD playback.
3) Would like to have inexpensive means to get feet wet in hi-rez audio once/if I own player.
4) Doing my homework (trying to find sources for hi-rez audio software) ahead of time.
Thank you for your time and assistance.
Here's another guy:
lynnemusic.com/surround.html
Some classical:
2l.no/hires/index.html
http://www.archive.org/details/DIATO...AUDIO_2GB_ISO3
https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...t=575236&pp=30
Ok - Sorry for any confusion. Here's the facts:
1) No hi-rez player now, I know I can't play them, not looking to.
2) 95% sure I'm getting a Oppo primarily for SD DVD playback. Thus enabling both DVD-A and SACD playback.
3) Would like to have inexpensive means to get feet wet in hi-rez audio once/if I own player.
4) Doing my homework (trying to find sources for hi-rez audio software) ahead of time.
Thank you for your time and assistance.
If you're going to get an Oppo be advised the 980H Oppo player ignores the watermark. This means you can make back-ups of watermarked discs and they will play, most players stop playback after 15 seconds.
For all those who are DTS vs. AC-3 combatants, it would be interesting to see if you find any difference in them, since the Focused Center masters are both the same.
-John
5.1 Surround Sound Test Files
Why go the distance and create 5.0 and not go the extra inch and add the .1, the sub track? Why include the sub track in other channels?
There is no such thing as a 'sub track', there is a LFE (low frequency effects) track. Don't automatically equate or confuse that with something specifically for the subwoofer. Your subwoofer can play back the LFE track, but it also can ignore it. By the same token, the LFE track can be diverted to the surround speakers if you don't have a subwoofer, and have full range surrounds. It all depends on your own setup, so music doesn't necessarily use the LFE channel at all.
LFE tracks (the .1) are historically to be used exclusively in motion pictures for special low frequency effects (explosions, earthquakes) per Dolby mix guidelines. Although some music mixers do put sub bass in the LFE, it has traditionally been frowned upon to do so, since the LFE channel is ignored when downmixing. In other words, nothing that is 'necessary' can be put in the .1 channel since it's not a real channel, it's just low frequency effects that are entirely optional, and your own home system is more than capable of doing the same thing, that is, diverting sub bass from the surrounds to the sub.
Your own home system should be set to divert bass from the 5 surrounds into the sub; the music mixer can't know which speakers you own that are full range and which aren't, so they put the bass in the sides, leave the LFE channel empty, and let you decide how to manage your bass. It's not like the old stereo days when we just assumed two full-range speakers. We've spent 14 gazillion threads on this one...
In Penteo's case, DTS and DVD-A mixes get a touch of sub-bass in the LFE, since they're straight pipes. AC-3 mixes do not, since Dolby handles bass management through your own setup.
-John
yeah! go to Dolby's website and they have some demo's you can download. BUT. the file types aren't supported by the ps3. so you'll have to download a program onto your pc called 'XviD4PSP' you can import a file and play around with it depending on what file type you need it to be. I found that you'll want the video encoding to be an mpeg 4 (mp4) and the audio to type to be AC3. then once you encode it you can export it to windows media play (or whatever else will work for you) then choose to open it in a separate folder then just drag the file onto a flash drive then copy it to your ps3! the video quality isn't the most amazing but the is great! hope this helps! :)
http://www.alaska.net/~hammy/hammytech/ac3.html
Since I can't post a link you'll have to google 'surround 2011 blogspot' to find their club.
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There are many forum threads around the web about Windows 10 breaking Surround Sound / 5.1 DTS / 5.1 Dolby, etc... However there appear to be a few different possibilities, and while some noted to fix it using unlocked Realtek drivers, I have tested this myself with the following results.
BACKGROUND
See screenshots below of all of my settings screens:
Windows 10, PC connected HDMI to my Samsung TV, and digital optical out through a Realtek soundcard to my Pioneer receiver (DD and DTS capable).
PC is a SHUTTLE SH67H3 PC
I have tried Realtek's R2.79 drivers Win10 x64. I have also tried the WIN10 x64 drivers from Shuttle's site (linked above). Both don't actually show the DTS/DD output option. The unlocked R2.79 drivers DO show that option, but more info on that below.
This worked in WIN7 without any headache, and using the built in drivers WIN7 applied to the soundcard. Didn't even need the realtek drivers.
Just use HDMI to your TV, and back to the receiver you idiot
Wouldn't that be nice! HDMI goes through the Samsung TV in full 5.1 glory, but the Samsung TV will not output it back out to the receiver in the same format it got it! It sends it back to the receiver as 2 channel.
Just use HDMI switching on your receiver instead you idiot
The receiver does NOT like the samsung TV as a single output. I get resolution issues, flicker, refresh rate problems, the list goes on. It is a far bigger headache to try and get the video to work right when putting all inputs in the receiver, and I decided it was time to let the TV handle all video itself.
And again, this DID work on WIN7.
TEST
My tests are always using a test DTS 5.1 file which plays sound in each speaker one at a time when DTS 5.1 is active and working properly. I have an MKV version which is also on PLEX (which plays through a browser).
PROBLEM
The below is true for either official Realtek driver file, and the built in windows 10 drivers (before realtek was even installed).
- Windows Movie and TV player, and Windows Media Player output NOTHING. No sound. Likely due to a codec issue though...
- VLC, with S/PDIF pass through disabled, output is 2 channel only. It is not DTS 5.1 or DD 5.1. The test file plays sounds only in the front L/R speakers one at a time as it cycles through all 5 speakers. When it gets to LTE channel, nothing plays at all, silence.
- VLC, using S/PDIF pass through option, works flawlessly and outputs DTS or Dolby Digital 5.1 sound through the optical output on my PC, to my receiver. Each speaker has it's own channel and the test file works flawlessly.
- Plex, in Chrome, IE, or FF, is never outputting DTS or DD 5.1. I can confirm that it is playing 'original' file and there is zero transcoding taking place. I've tried tons of plex settings, nothing seems to work. This is just like VLC with S/PDIF pass through DISABLED. I get 2 channels only and LTE doesn't work at all in the test file.
- Websites in Chrome, IE, FF are just like the above, no change. I cannot get DD or DTS to be output.
The below is true for the unlocked realtek R2.79 driver.
- I can go into the Realtek settings screen and now from the dropdown select DTS or DD. All of the sudden my receiver is showing DTS or DD on the front panel, SUCCESS!?!? NO.
- In fact, it is outputting DTS/DD. But it's not treating the files right. Just like in all the tests above, I cannot hear the LTE channel in the test file in any test, and the rear/center speakers are made only accross the L/R front speakers.
- What's worse, the S/PDIF passthrough in VLC now does the same thing, it no longer functions properly!!! So even though it says DTS, and it very well may be outputting that, it is downmixing everything it gets into 2 channels only!
So this is the problem, and I have found no solution to date. I am all ears. My goal is to get at least one browser capable of outputting 5.1 in DD or DTS in its true form. From Xfinity TV webapp, Plex, HBO Go, and Netflix at a minimum.
2 Answers
I've just spend whole Sunday solving this crap! But after all those hours I have a working 5.1 audio on Windows 10 (1809) through optical S/PDIF on my ASRock X470 (Realtek ALC1220). And it's not just DTS pass through!
There are many VERY VERY LONG threads discussing this, the most useful comment was this one.
The solution:
- you need to download that patcher that will 'fix' the missingfeatures
- download proper driver, that is still compatible with the patcher - in my case I've used version 2.82, the file name is '0009-64bit_Win7_Win8_Win81_Win10_R282.exe' (this is a two years old driver!!! I've tried to use official one for my MB but the patcher didn't worked)
- unzip this .exe file to access the files and patch two .dll files in the 'WIN64' directory
- install the driver - here you will get a warning from Windows that the driver is not signed!
- reboot and finish configuration in the 'Sound' window:
a) on the tab 'Enhacements' check 'Disable all sound effects'
b) on the tab 'Advanced' for 'Default Format' select 'Dolby Digital Live (5.1 Surround)' - FINALLY!!!
If this feels like too much, here is the fixed installer (you still need to do the step 5 and execute the patcher - it needs to modify your Registry as well).
PS: Testing video file.
NOTE: The patcher gets some false-positive detection. But it doesn't require elevated rights to be executed and it's 4 years old. So I would say it's quite safe.
im using a intel NUC wich has hdmi and optical out.The only way i could get surround from the optical was disabling hdmi audio (intel audio in my case in device manager)reboot and done!Im in win10 using vlc.
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Description: Very simple movie that lets you test the functionality of your system according to the specifications AC3, test of all 6-channel audio and surround effects.
Length: 0.48 min
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How often happen to have bubbi the operation of an audio channel? E ‘fault of the film we are playing or our plant?
With this simple tool loaded on a cd you get a chance to test it from your reader from the table and doing nothing from your PC (if you have the outputs 5.1), this is one of those tools than a screwdriver is useful to have hand even if not used frequently.
This test has no harmful frequencies (as others, if you want them just ask) for your plant.
Download : TEST TOOL Ac3 Dolby Digital 5.1Ch Sound Test (video file for test surround effects)
Nome Codec Video: DivX 3 Low-Motion
Numero Frame: 1457
Frame (pixels): 576
Altezza frame(pixels): 432
Display Aspect Ratio ('DAR'): 1.333
FPS: 29.970
Video Bitrate (kbps): 2011
QF: 0.270